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		<title>Comment on High Culture by Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, those perfect kids are a roiling mess of imperfections.  I looked like one of those kids, too.  I never watched TV or saw a movie before college...never so much as kissed a boy or had a date...never listened to music that wasn't authorized by my father.  I was easy pickings for predators and I got trashed, and bad, in the first year I actually left my protective bubble.

It's taken me all these years (14+) to find out what I believe, make decisions because they are right for me, stop feeling superior because I've never done such-and-such.  Leaving legalism behind to find the God who died for me (imperfect me!).

I feel really sorry for those kids, actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, those perfect kids are a roiling mess of imperfections.  I looked like one of those kids, too.  I never watched TV or saw a movie before college&#8230;never so much as kissed a boy or had a date&#8230;never listened to music that wasn&#8217;t authorized by my father.  I was easy pickings for predators and I got trashed, and bad, in the first year I actually left my protective bubble.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s taken me all these years (14+) to find out what I believe, make decisions because they are right for me, stop feeling superior because I&#8217;ve never done such-and-such.  Leaving legalism behind to find the God who died for me (imperfect me!).</p>
<p>I feel really sorry for those kids, actually.</p>
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		<title>Comment on High Culture by Joan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought - pride goeth before a fall.  Pride is sinful.  If someone is living 'perfectly' and 'without sin' for the purpose of being more spiritually 'self-righteous' than others, than that is a form of spiritual 'pride', and he will be humbled and brought to his knees by God in some capacity.  The rest of the world may never know how or why.  It's not ours to know.  Whether we choose to immerse our children in and embrace today's societal culture, or refute the culture in an effort to retain more innocence, we must always recognize the importance of putting God first.  Search your Bible - read the passages in whole with the leadership of the Holy Spirit.  Don't take partial passages and apply them without context just because they fit your reasoning.  It's God's reasoning that matters. I could go through and cite chapter and verse for a number of issues in which I disagree with society's mores, and from which I am attempting to protect my children and maintain their innocence until I believe they are more wholly grounded in God and mature enough to be able to make appropriate decisions for their lives.  But I don't believe I am 'better' than any of my peers - I just believe in raising my kids in a different manner.  My daughter has been ostracized because I don't allow her to watch a particular popular pre-teen TV show.  I don't disallow it because I feel she is 'more righteous' than her peers - I disallow it because I feel that, at age 8, she is a child and not a preteen, and should not yet be so exposed to and immersed in the preteen genre that she should want to 'grow up' and experience too much too soon.  She should enjoy being an innocent child.  If she were eleven or twelve, I would reconsider.  Same with the whole home schooling thing.  Some say I am over-protecting my children, and that I should let them go to public school with their peers.  I have had one preacher who even disagreed with me, having sent his own children to public school because there they could reach more non-churched, potentially non-Christian people.  I have heard all the arguments.  Yet, I don't feel that I am a better person than the rest.  I am just making the decision that I believe, after much prayer and research, is the best one for my children and my family.  God knows the intent of a man's heart.  You may never know whether that  'high-culture' family is prideful or not.  But you can rest assured that they deal with the same issues that you do in different form.  The more things change, the more they stay the same (read C.S. Lewis' Mere Christianity), and human nature is the same regardless of race or culture.  I personally hope that my children will stay sexually pure until marriage.  In today's culture, that becomes increasingly unlikely.  I can do my best to teach them my views on that, and back it up with scripture and a heart for God.  But at some point, I will be releasing them into the world to have their own experiences and make their own choices.  They will sin (don't we all?), and they will make bad choices, and they will have failures.  I will be there to love them and give advice when requested, and, yes, I will judge, because someone has to teach them judgement over their own actions and over the actions of others as directed towards themselves.  But through it all, I will pray that the lessons I have taught them about putting God first, respecting self, and loving others will have sunk in and been retained.  They are, after all, not just my children, but children on loan to me from God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought - pride goeth before a fall.  Pride is sinful.  If someone is living &#8216;perfectly&#8217; and &#8216;without sin&#8217; for the purpose of being more spiritually &#8217;self-righteous&#8217; than others, than that is a form of spiritual &#8216;pride&#8217;, and he will be humbled and brought to his knees by God in some capacity.  The rest of the world may never know how or why.  It&#8217;s not ours to know.  Whether we choose to immerse our children in and embrace today&#8217;s societal culture, or refute the culture in an effort to retain more innocence, we must always recognize the importance of putting God first.  Search your Bible - read the passages in whole with the leadership of the Holy Spirit.  Don&#8217;t take partial passages and apply them without context just because they fit your reasoning.  It&#8217;s God&#8217;s reasoning that matters. I could go through and cite chapter and verse for a number of issues in which I disagree with society&#8217;s mores, and from which I am attempting to protect my children and maintain their innocence until I believe they are more wholly grounded in God and mature enough to be able to make appropriate decisions for their lives.  But I don&#8217;t believe I am &#8216;better&#8217; than any of my peers - I just believe in raising my kids in a different manner.  My daughter has been ostracized because I don&#8217;t allow her to watch a particular popular pre-teen TV show.  I don&#8217;t disallow it because I feel she is &#8216;more righteous&#8217; than her peers - I disallow it because I feel that, at age 8, she is a child and not a preteen, and should not yet be so exposed to and immersed in the preteen genre that she should want to &#8216;grow up&#8217; and experience too much too soon.  She should enjoy being an innocent child.  If she were eleven or twelve, I would reconsider.  Same with the whole home schooling thing.  Some say I am over-protecting my children, and that I should let them go to public school with their peers.  I have had one preacher who even disagreed with me, having sent his own children to public school because there they could reach more non-churched, potentially non-Christian people.  I have heard all the arguments.  Yet, I don&#8217;t feel that I am a better person than the rest.  I am just making the decision that I believe, after much prayer and research, is the best one for my children and my family.  God knows the intent of a man&#8217;s heart.  You may never know whether that  &#8216;high-culture&#8217; family is prideful or not.  But you can rest assured that they deal with the same issues that you do in different form.  The more things change, the more they stay the same (read C.S. Lewis&#8217; Mere Christianity), and human nature is the same regardless of race or culture.  I personally hope that my children will stay sexually pure until marriage.  In today&#8217;s culture, that becomes increasingly unlikely.  I can do my best to teach them my views on that, and back it up with scripture and a heart for God.  But at some point, I will be releasing them into the world to have their own experiences and make their own choices.  They will sin (don&#8217;t we all?), and they will make bad choices, and they will have failures.  I will be there to love them and give advice when requested, and, yes, I will judge, because someone has to teach them judgement over their own actions and over the actions of others as directed towards themselves.  But through it all, I will pray that the lessons I have taught them about putting God first, respecting self, and loving others will have sunk in and been retained.  They are, after all, not just my children, but children on loan to me from God.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This Ain&#8217;t Your Mama&#8217;s OCD by Rhonda and Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhonda and Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd also have to say, we hid disabilities, disabilities were shameful.  So I'm guessing there were people who had OCD or other issues and knew how to keep it under wraps in public.

Just a thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also have to say, we hid disabilities, disabilities were shameful.  So I&#8217;m guessing there were people who had OCD or other issues and knew how to keep it under wraps in public.</p>
<p>Just a thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on This Ain&#8217;t Your Mama&#8217;s OCD by Ecki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a teen (25 years ago!) I knew a kid who washed his hands until they were purple. He went to a psychiatric hospital for several months. So, I think there WERE kids like this a generation ago. But we didn't have the internet, cable/satellite tv, and all that other media publicizing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a teen (25 years ago!) I knew a kid who washed his hands until they were purple. He went to a psychiatric hospital for several months. So, I think there WERE kids like this a generation ago. But we didn&#8217;t have the internet, cable/satellite tv, and all that other media publicizing it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Do We Have to be NICE to the Cows?? by Liane Holland</title>
		<link>http://www.chewymom.com/do-we-have-to-be-nice-to-the-cows/#comment-89639</link>
		<dc:creator>Liane Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chewymom: 

Bless your heart you are going in the right direction and God is and will bless you for it. 

I am on a Yahoo Group that is about spaying and Neutering our dogs and cats in California bill Ab 1634. 

I agree with them, but that is where it stops. Exactly what you wrote and are talking about is being discussed as a OT Topic and pushing buttons. 

My religion is for the most part vegetarian, but some do eat meat, but I have found that my own life and well being has improved so much since I stopped eating all meat, but even before when i ate meat sparingly I saw improvements in my health and well being. 

We raise a dozen chickens here and sell their eggs, we do not eat them ourselves, but we feel that those that still want to eat eggs we sell them so that people will at least be eating healthier eggs and feel good about what they are eating. 

We have free range chickens that have their little beaks and are quite happy with rooster controlling and disciplining. His job is to keep order and he does. 

If we follow God's principles and care and treat animals as we should, God does indeed bless our efforts and we give glory back to God. 

The bottom line is we are what we eat. 

Liane, the Zoo Mama</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chewymom: </p>
<p>Bless your heart you are going in the right direction and God is and will bless you for it. </p>
<p>I am on a Yahoo Group that is about spaying and Neutering our dogs and cats in California bill Ab 1634. </p>
<p>I agree with them, but that is where it stops. Exactly what you wrote and are talking about is being discussed as a OT Topic and pushing buttons. </p>
<p>My religion is for the most part vegetarian, but some do eat meat, but I have found that my own life and well being has improved so much since I stopped eating all meat, but even before when i ate meat sparingly I saw improvements in my health and well being. </p>
<p>We raise a dozen chickens here and sell their eggs, we do not eat them ourselves, but we feel that those that still want to eat eggs we sell them so that people will at least be eating healthier eggs and feel good about what they are eating. </p>
<p>We have free range chickens that have their little beaks and are quite happy with rooster controlling and disciplining. His job is to keep order and he does. </p>
<p>If we follow God&#8217;s principles and care and treat animals as we should, God does indeed bless our efforts and we give glory back to God. </p>
<p>The bottom line is we are what we eat. </p>
<p>Liane, the Zoo Mama</p>
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		<title>Comment on High Culture by Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about not managing to pull off perfection:  it makes you so much more approachable to other people when they have troubles and need support.  

When my son got divorced we felt so much shame because in our world, entrenched as we were in the conservative homeschooling movement, careful parenting is supposed to prevent this kind of thing.   

But instead of condemnation, people came out of the woodwork to offer support.  Especially people who had personal experience with the mess that surrounds divorce and betrayal.  Pillars of our church shared stories about their own early first marriages and divorces.  My initial reaction was "WHAT???  You were married before???  But you're so perfect!!!"  I was shocked to learn that several marriages I assumed to be first and always marriages were actually second marriages.  That were now 25 or 30 or more years long.  

God is a redeeming God.  When Plan A doesn't work out, He'll take Plan B and make it Plan A. 

I don't wish hurt and pain and mistakes and sin on anyone, and I'd prefer to avoid them myself, and to save my children from them.  But since it's fairly inevitable that hurt and pain and mistakes and sin will befall us and entangle us, I will say this, it is nice to find a redeeming God working in the mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about not managing to pull off perfection:  it makes you so much more approachable to other people when they have troubles and need support.  </p>
<p>When my son got divorced we felt so much shame because in our world, entrenched as we were in the conservative homeschooling movement, careful parenting is supposed to prevent this kind of thing.   </p>
<p>But instead of condemnation, people came out of the woodwork to offer support.  Especially people who had personal experience with the mess that surrounds divorce and betrayal.  Pillars of our church shared stories about their own early first marriages and divorces.  My initial reaction was &#8220;WHAT???  You were married before???  But you&#8217;re so perfect!!!&#8221;  I was shocked to learn that several marriages I assumed to be first and always marriages were actually second marriages.  That were now 25 or 30 or more years long.  </p>
<p>God is a redeeming God.  When Plan A doesn&#8217;t work out, He&#8217;ll take Plan B and make it Plan A. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t wish hurt and pain and mistakes and sin on anyone, and I&#8217;d prefer to avoid them myself, and to save my children from them.  But since it&#8217;s fairly inevitable that hurt and pain and mistakes and sin will befall us and entangle us, I will say this, it is nice to find a redeeming God working in the mess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on High Culture by Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm hearing you honey and as more often than not totally get what you are saying and agreeing. Thanks for making my tired brain think. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hearing you honey and as more often than not totally get what you are saying and agreeing. Thanks for making my tired brain think. <img src='http://www.chewymom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on High Culture by chewymom</title>
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		<dc:creator>chewymom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, I don't think any of the things I mentioned are sin.  Maybe that's where we are misunderstanding each other.  Being involved in the culture does not equal sin!  I guess I'm just...confused.  I have no idea where I encouraged sin in any way.  What I hopefully DID say is that avoiding our current culture does not make a person more spiritual.  And that IF my child struggles with sin as he is involved in the culture, but his sin drives him to Jesus, that is a GOOD thing.  Not that I would ever encourage him to sin.  But even the "high culture" person--or the person who never kisses anyone, or who only wears loose-fitting clothes, or the person who listens solely to classical music--sins.  Sometimes those who live perfectly on the outside don't recognize their sin, as they work so hard to shun the culture in which they live.  Somehow that becomes equated with being a "good Christian" in their mind, and they look with pity at those who do things like dress stylishly and listen to popular music.  It's not that I would encourage my child TO sin, but when he does sin, I would rejoice if he recognized it and it made him run to Christ.  It is easier to help the sinner who beats his breast and cries "Have mercy on me Oh Lord" to see his need of a savior than to help the sinner who says, "Thank God I'm not like THOSE people."  At least that has been my experience as a Christian and as a mom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, I don&#8217;t think any of the things I mentioned are sin.  Maybe that&#8217;s where we are misunderstanding each other.  Being involved in the culture does not equal sin!  I guess I&#8217;m just&#8230;confused.  I have no idea where I encouraged sin in any way.  What I hopefully DID say is that avoiding our current culture does not make a person more spiritual.  And that IF my child struggles with sin as he is involved in the culture, but his sin drives him to Jesus, that is a GOOD thing.  Not that I would ever encourage him to sin.  But even the &#8220;high culture&#8221; person&#8211;or the person who never kisses anyone, or who only wears loose-fitting clothes, or the person who listens solely to classical music&#8211;sins.  Sometimes those who live perfectly on the outside don&#8217;t recognize their sin, as they work so hard to shun the culture in which they live.  Somehow that becomes equated with being a &#8220;good Christian&#8221; in their mind, and they look with pity at those who do things like dress stylishly and listen to popular music.  It&#8217;s not that I would encourage my child TO sin, but when he does sin, I would rejoice if he recognized it and it made him run to Christ.  It is easier to help the sinner who beats his breast and cries &#8220;Have mercy on me Oh Lord&#8221; to see his need of a savior than to help the sinner who says, &#8220;Thank God I&#8217;m not like THOSE people.&#8221;  At least that has been my experience as a Christian and as a mom.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What if We&#8217;re Wrong? by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.chewymom.com/what-if-were-wrong/#comment-89560</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive my coming in so late to the discussion.  You've had some great postings on this train of thought.  I commend the quality of your blog's exchange. In particular, I appreciate your raising the issue of possible consequences of the varying views of gender.  

Nevertheless, I suspect your analysis carries a flaw.  You assume we can know the consequences of our actions. That's a large assumption.  I fear that in far too many situations that simply isn't the case.  We don't know or cannot know the consequences.  In fact, disobedience often has results that are unforeseen and far larger than we suspect.  So even though you raise a fascinating point, it doesn't help.  Adopting one of the other of the views could be far more devastating or detrimental than you calculate.  The world is simply too fallen.    

Consequently, study the Word.  Do what you believe to be right and biblical regardless of the consequences. Solid exegesis, I argue, trumps suspected results every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive my coming in so late to the discussion.  You&#8217;ve had some great postings on this train of thought.  I commend the quality of your blog&#8217;s exchange. In particular, I appreciate your raising the issue of possible consequences of the varying views of gender.  </p>
<p>Nevertheless, I suspect your analysis carries a flaw.  You assume we can know the consequences of our actions. That&#8217;s a large assumption.  I fear that in far too many situations that simply isn&#8217;t the case.  We don&#8217;t know or cannot know the consequences.  In fact, disobedience often has results that are unforeseen and far larger than we suspect.  So even though you raise a fascinating point, it doesn&#8217;t help.  Adopting one of the other of the views could be far more devastating or detrimental than you calculate.  The world is simply too fallen.    </p>
<p>Consequently, study the Word.  Do what you believe to be right and biblical regardless of the consequences. Solid exegesis, I argue, trumps suspected results every time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on High Culture by Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I don't see the value in having sinned.  The value is in having not sinned.  Yes, everyone sins.  My son sins.  But he has avoided sexual sins by remaining celibate (completely so) until he married.  What is the value in sinning?  Paul tells us in Romans that using grace as a reason to sin is wrong.  When we can help our children avoid sin, there are many other things they avoid in the process . . . the consequences of sin.  Will they still sin?  Yes!   But is hoping they sin so that they can experience grace a good thing?  I guess that's what I got out of what you wrote.  Probably I misinterpreted it and for that I apologize.  Maybe just a bad day for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I don&#8217;t see the value in having sinned.  The value is in having not sinned.  Yes, everyone sins.  My son sins.  But he has avoided sexual sins by remaining celibate (completely so) until he married.  What is the value in sinning?  Paul tells us in Romans that using grace as a reason to sin is wrong.  When we can help our children avoid sin, there are many other things they avoid in the process . . . the consequences of sin.  Will they still sin?  Yes!   But is hoping they sin so that they can experience grace a good thing?  I guess that&#8217;s what I got out of what you wrote.  Probably I misinterpreted it and for that I apologize.  Maybe just a bad day for me.</p>
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