Comments on: I’m Still Here…and a Comment on the Bayly Brothers

By: Lynn

Lynn — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:22:03 +0000

“He does not suggest that women should be subject to anyone except their own husbands and the other authorities that we are under through God (acknowledged or not). Scripture does not require women to be subject to all men, just their husbands and other authorities which include their own pastors (through their husbands) and civil authorities etc.”

Hi, Chewymom. Like you, I don’t read the Bayly blog much any more, and I’ve been hit or miss on blogging. This comment about the Baylys telling women they are not subject to anyone except their own husbands and the other authorities God has placed over them actually may be true, on the surface of things. Bayly probably does teach this.

What Bayly actually teaches is against women ever having positions of authority over men, because when that happens, so he says, the created order is violated.

It’s a subtle difference, but what it amounts to is not that women are subjects of all men at all times, but that no man really should ever have a woman as an authority over him, because that violates the created order.

I disagree with that, and don’t see how the prominent godly women in Scripture are doing any violence to Genesis chapter one.

It’s kind of like he’s saying Genesis 1 only applies to the wife’s husband in relation to her - not to all men being over her. But then he turns around and teaches Genesis 1 must apply to all women in relation to all men– that no woman should ever have authority over another man, not just her own husband.

It just doesn’t compute, logically, or Scripturally. He limits the application in one sense, but broadens it in another - in a way that Scripture does not teach.

By: Hannah

Hannah — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:50:15 +0000

Chewymom, I’d love to connect to you on Facebook. But I’m not sure how to find you. . .

By: chewymom

chewymom — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:03:11 +0000

Hey Jenn,

Just wanted to say that actually the Bayly brothers stuff has not bothered me at all for the last few years. Honestly, I just don’t go over there, and I don’t have much contact with people who believe/behave like them, even though we are still in the same Christian denomination. I posted that comment because I thought it so odd that someone is just now commenting on that post - just thought some of my readers from back then would find it interesting!

I’m glad to know where you are blogging now - I’ll have to check it out!

By: Nicole

Nicole — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:50:57 +0000

I hear you Karen, I am blogging much less often and am seeing that when I do find the time to blog hop many others not finding the time either.

Love you girlfriend!

By: Jenn

Jenn — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:35:35 +0000

Hi Chewymom! It’s been a while. I posted here long ago as emmasometimes and I saw your link on Skerrib’s blog. I immediately thought of the Bayly posts and was surprised to see this post. (queue Twilight Zone music) They did not act toward you in love or authority, beating you with their version of scripture.

Being subject to my husband does not mean as a woman, I am his slave. God took the rib bone, not a skull bone (superior) and not a foot bone (inferior) but a bone from Adam’s side to make Eve. A wife is a helpmate, someone standing by his side, an equal…never a doormat.

and may the good Lord work in the marriage of the man (or woman) that does not understand this divine design.

I’m sure the Bayly incident has bothered you for years..even I think about it and cringe at how misguided this man was/is..even with it all being two years ago. I say pray for him. Forgive him and leave him to his own misgivings. God has His way of holding those people accountable to teach them grace, love, and in his case, tolerance of the female gender which appears to be lacking.

Anyway, my two cents. Good to read you again. And btw, I’m on facebook, chickie. Email me and we’ll hook up!

By: Palmer

Palmer — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:36:44 +0000

Who the hell is this idiot who says that women should be subject to their husbands? That is a load of horse shit.
I love my husband tremendously, as he loves me. We are both attorneys and I worked to put him through law school. I did this not because I am in any way inferior to him or because I, as a woman, need to “serve” my man but because I wanted him to have a good career and law was his goal ever since he was a child.
We have a marriage of twenty years, two children and a very good lifestyle. We are EQUALS and we raised our children to respect all people of all genders, sexual orientation and racial and religious backgrounds. Crap like what this fool is propagating doesn’t fly in our house.
BTW, my husband and I are both elders in our Presbyterian church. We are aware, as everyone should be, that the Bible has had many translations,most of them done at the behest of whichever king or ruler was in power at the time. It was considered politically expedient to add stuff about obeying one’s king or employer/master. There were also those, St.Paul being an excellent example, who hated women and did everything in their power to prevent them from having any real role in church leadership.
I have much more to say about creeps who try and push women down. I’ll reduce it to two words: Misogynist assholes. “nuff said.

By: chewymom

chewymom — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:58:25 +0000

Thanks so much for all of your kind words! I really am not *wanting* to quit blogging, I just felt like I needed to post SOMETHING to let people know that I haven’t just vanished off the face of the earth! A lot of what has been going through my head and that I would normally blog about could potentially hurt the feelings of others, so I feel like I am having to guard my tongue (fingers) and limit what I post. I don’t know if that makes sense…but anyway, I’m sure I’ll be back to brain-barf all over my keyboard eventually, but for now I’m having to keep my mouth (fingers), ummm, shut.

By: Rhonda and Alex

Rhonda and Alex — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:52:57 +0000

Hey girlie - I read here often too!!!! I love your outlook on life, so please try to stop by once in a while, kay?

By: Kathy

Kathy — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:12:30 +0000

Your public is calling for you!

By: Lrfish

Lrfish — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:47:02 +0000

Hey, I read this blog, too! I love being your friend on Facebook (I especially loved it during the election, as I really valued your perspective.) But I also miss reading Chewymom! I hope you don’t give it up entirely…Oh, and I know my husband checks this blog regularly, too, so there’s another fan!